Monday, January 26, 2015

Why King Robert and Joffrey were killed in the way they were and what may be in store for Tomen

Potential Spoilers Below


Excerpt from The Shadow Rising:

“Do you not?” she murmured mildly. “Then you will not have heard that Tedosian fell ill not an hour after returning to the Stone, directly after his wife gave him a goblet of wine to wash away the dust of the hunt. It is said he wept when he learned that she means to tend him herself, and feed him with her own hands. No doubt tears of joy at her love. I hear she has vowed not to leave his side until he can rise again. Or until he dies.”


Excerpt from The Fires of Heaven:

“You don't understand, Nynaeve. Alliandre is the fourth to sit on the Light Blessed Throne since we came to Ghealdan, and that's barely half a year. Johanin wore the crown when Masema began attracting a few crowds, but he thought Masema a harmless madman and did nothing even when the crowds grew and his nobles told him he had to put an end to it. Johanin died in a hunting accident —”


Nynaeve
Masema

Hunting accident!Uno interjected, sneering. A hawker who happened to be looking at him dropped his tray of pins and needles. “Not unless he didn't know one bloody end of a flaming boar spear from the other. Flaming southlanders and their flaming Game of Houses!”




“And Ellizelle succeeded,” Ragan took up. “She had the army dispersing the crowds, until finally there was a pitched battle and it was the army that was chased off.”

Ragan
“Bloody poor excuse for soldiers,” Uno muttered. She was going to have to speak to him about his language again.


Ragan nodded agreement, but went on with what he had been saying. “They say Ellizelle took poison after that, but however she died, she was replaced by Teresia, who lasted a full ten days after her coronation, just until she had a chance to send two thousand soldiers against ten thousand folk who had gathered to hear Masema outside Jehannah. After her soldiers were routed, she abdicated to marry a rich merchant.” Nynaeve stared at him incredulously, and Uno snorted. “That is what they say,” the younger man maintained. “Of course, in this land, marrying a commoner means giving up any claim to the throne forever, and whatever Beron Goraed feels about having a pretty young wife with royal blood, I hear he was dragged from his bed by a score of Alliandre's retainers and hauled to Jheda Palace for a wedding in the small hours of the morning. Teresia went off to live on her husband's new country estate while Alliandre was being crowned, all before sunrise, and the new queen summoned Masema to the palace to tell him he would not be troubled again. Inside two weeks she was calling on him. I do not know whether she really believes what he preaches, but I know she took the throne of a land on the edge of civil war, with Whitecloaks ready to move in, and she stopped it the only way she could. That is a wise queen, and a man could be proud to serve her, even if she is a southlander.”


Whitecloaks

Both excerpts involve “hunting accidents.”  The first tells of Tedosian who killed the High Lord Carleon in a “hunting accident.”  We find out that Carleon is the lover of Tedosian’s wife the Lady Alteima.  After Tedosian returns from the hunting trip Lady Alteima, who is manipulating both her husband and her lover, tries to poison him with a goblet of wine used to “wash away the dust of the hunt.”  She vows not to leave his side until he can rise again or until he dies. 


Lady Alteima

It is not a big stretch to “flip the script.”  Lady Alteima becomes Queen Cersei who manipulates her soon to be lover Lancel into getting King Robert extremely intoxicated while on a “hunting trip.”  You take away the feigned love for her husband and she doesn’t appear to care whatsoever if he lives or dies.


Queen Cersei
Cersei and Lancel
Lancel carrying the wine that did in Robert

Now you combine that with the excerpt from the Fires of Heaven and the complete picture starts coming together.  This tells of Johanin who supposedly dies in a “hunting accident” also.  They say he is hunting boars but Uno adds “not unless he didn’t know one bloody end of  a flaming boar spear from the other” this was just a farce.  He throws in a bit about the southlanders flaming “Game of House!”  The Game of Houses is equivalent to the Game of Thrones.

It then mentions the ruler to succeed Johanin, Ellizelle.  Ellizelle had her army dispersing the crowds, until finally there was a pitched battle and it was the army that was chased off.  They say she took poison after this incident.  Do you guys remember King Joffrey using his kingsguard to disperse the crowds?  And then lo and behold at his wedding he is poisoned.  Coincidence?

King Joffrey poisoned at his wedding

Ellizelle is succeeded by Teresia.  She lasted 10 full days after sending two thousands soldiers against ten thousand folk who were loyal to Masema.  Masema to me is similar to the High sparrow / High Septon and the ten thousand folk are the Faith Militant or Sparrows who are a religious movement that arose within the ranks of the Faith of the Seven brought back when Cersei was tricked into reinstating their authority.  This was done in an attempt to alleviate the crown's debts, gain the Faith's blessing, and gain more protection from her purported enemies. 

So does that mean that King Tommen will be led to have his forces go up against superior numbers and thus bring about his end.  Is Margaery then forced to marry someone other than the potential King of Westeros?  If this happens then it will mean that the person to follow may be similar to Alliandre and surviving simply by appeasing the faith and go along as best they can?


King Tommen
Margaery



Again I am not making this stuff up, I am just 

reporting back to you what I have found.
  
Crazy right?




Comments encouraged.  Love to hear the idea’s of others.  Most believe that since I present my idea’s as “fact like” I’m not open to change my viewpoints which is far from the truth.  I simply look at the information presented and go from there.  If you can shine a light on another way of thinking that opens the door to debate.

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