Saturday, May 11, 2019

Why another Wall will be built


Potential Spoilers Below

I keep telling everyone that similarities between The Wheel of Time (TWOT) and A Song of Ice and Fire (ASOIAF) are vast even if there are those out there that say otherwise. 

I misinterpreted the meaning of this the first time around.  I think that this is what it actually means.


Rand sighed; he almost thought if he turned his head quickly enough, he would see Alanna’s hand poised over him. “What about the question I posed you last time? Herid? Herid?”

The stout man’s head jerked up. “Oh. Yes. Ah, question. Last time. Tarmon Gai’don. Well, I don’t know what it will be like. Trollocs, I suppose? Dreadlords? Yes. Dreadlords. But I have been thinking. It can’t be the Last Battle. I don’t think it can. Maybe every Age has a Last Battle. Or most of them.” Suddenly he frowned down his nose at the pipe in his teeth, and began rummaging across the table. “I have a tinderbox here somewhere.”

“What do you mean it can’t be the Last Battle?” Rand tried to keep his voice smooth. Herid always came to the point; you just had to prod him toward it.

“What? Yes, exactly the point. It can’t be the Last Battle. Even if the Dragon Reborn seals the Dark One’s prison again as well as the Creator made it. Which I don’t think he can do.” He leaned forward and lowered his voice conspiratorially. “He isn’t the Creator, you know, whatever they say in the streets. Still, it has to be sealed up again by somebody. The Wheel, you see.”

“I don’t see. . . .” Rand trailed off.

“Yes, you do. You’d make a good student.” Snatching his pipe out, Herid drew a circle in the air with the stem. “The Wheel of Time. Ages come and go and come again as the Wheel turns. All the catechism.” Suddenly he stabbed a point on that imaginary wheel. “Here the Dark One’s prison is whole. Here, they drilled a hole in it, and sealed it up again.” He moved the bit of the pipe along the arc he had drawn. “Here we are. The seal’s weakening. But that doesn’t matter, of course.” The pipestem completed the circle. “When the Wheel turns back to here, back to where they drilled the hole in the first place, the Dark One’s prison has to be whole again.”

“Why? Maybe the next time they’ll drill through the patch. Maybe that’s how they could do it the last time—drill into what the Creator made, I mean—maybe they drilled the Bore through a patch and we just don’t know.”

Herid shook his head. For a moment he stared at his pipe, once more realizing it was unlit, and Rand thought he might have to recall him again, but instead Herid blinked and went on. “Someone had to make it sometime. For the first time, that is. Unless you think the Creator made the Dark One’s prison with a hole and patch to begin.” His eyebrows waggled at the suggestion. “No, it was whole in the beginning, and I think it will be whole again when the Third Age comes once more. Hmmm. I wonder if they called it the Third Age?” He hastily dipped a pen and scribbled a note in the margins of an open book. “Umph. No matter now. I’m not saying the Dragon Reborn will be the one to make it whole, not in this Age necessarily anyway, but it must be so before the Third Age comes again, and enough time passed since it was made whole—an Age, at least—that no one remembers the Dark One or his prison. No one remembers. Um. I wonder. . . .” He peered at his notes and scratched his head, then seemed startled to find he used the hand holding the pen. There was a smudge of ink in his hair. “Any Age where seals weaken must remember the Dark One eventually, because they will have to face him and wall him up again.” Sticking his pipe back between his teeth, he tried to make another note without dipping the pen.
             
“Unless the Dark One breaks free,” Rand said quietly. “To break the Wheel of Time, and remake Time and the world in his own image.”

There is that.” Herid shrugged, frowning at the pen. Finally he thought of the inkpot. “I don’t suppose there’s much you or I can do about it. Why don’t you come study here with me? I don’t suppose Tarmon Gai’don will happen tomorrow, and it would be as good a use of your time as—”

“Is there any reason you can think of to break the seals?”

Herid’s eyebrows shot up. “Break the seals? Break the seals? Why would anyone but a madman want to do that? Can they even be broken? I seem to remember reading somewhere they can’t, but I don’t recall now that it said why. What made you think of a thing like that?”

“I don’t know,” Rand sighed. In the back of his head Lews Therin was chanting. Break the seals. Break the seals, and end it. Let me die forever.


This is exactly the scenario playing out in ASOIAF.  We are coming to a point where Jon Snow and crew are about to begin their version of the Last Battle.  Everybody should remember the conversation that Dany had with Tyrion about breaking the Wheel. 

1.       The Dark One’s prison is whole (The Wheel of Time)
-          The Wall is created, to hold the ice god, but not the way we have been told it was (A Song of Ice and Fire)

2.       They drilled a hole in it and sealed it up again
-          A passage is cut within the wall to travel back and forth.  The Black Gate is created to seal

3.       The seal’s weaking and the Dark One starts breaking free
-          The magic that holds the ice god starts weakening and he can exerts his influence upon the world (i.e. resurrecting Beric, Catelyn Stark (Lady Stoneheart), possibly Arya & Jon Snow)

4.       Herid suggests that “When the Wheel turns back to here (step 2) back to where they drilled the hole in the first place the Dark One’s prison has to be whole again.  When the Third Age comes again, and enough time passed since it was made whole – an Age, at least-that no one remembers the Dark One or his prison.  No one remembers.
-          This suggests to me that the essence ice god, will break free and the fire god will be imprisoned this time around.  The Wall will be black this time and will reside outside King’s Landing.

5.       Unless the Dark One breaks free and remakes Time and the world in his own image
-          Unless the fire god which has been jumping around from Bran to Arya and now to Jon Snow remakes the world in his image.  Taking away the memory of mankind and filling it with his own.

6.       Herid suggests that any age where seals weaken must remember the Dark One eventually, because they will have to face him and wall him up again
-          It suggests falling back into a time (step 4) where no one remembers the events of the  Night King and everything repeats itself

7.       Rand suggest breaking the seals and Herid thinks him a madman.
-          This to me is the forging of Lightbringer.  The breaking of the swords are the attempts to kill the Night King. 
a.       Arya stabs the Night King but his touching of Bran was a form of compulsion which doesn’t allow him to resist when he wargs into him.  Bran changed and stopped thinking about his family.  Arya was tempered in water when she was stabbed by the Waif.  She was reborn in water or tempered.  Arya was also touched by the Night King and a form of compulsion was also placed upon her.
b.       The Night King wargs into Arya after Bran tells her and Sansa Jon Snow’s secret of being a Targaryen.  Notice after speaking of family and how it was so important, she rides off with the Hound saying she doesn’t intend on ever coming back.  Arya will run into Jaimie Lannister.  She will kill him to take his face to kill Cersei.  In doing so Jaime, the captured Lion will become the second failed attempt to kill the Night King even though he won’t know it.
c.       Somewhere along the line Arya will touch Jon Snow and a form of compulsion will be placed on him.  After that the Night King will warg Jon Snow where he wanted to be all along.  Jon Snow and Dany will eventually face each other and they will attempt to kill each other.  Jon will kill her and this will be the proverbial sword plunged into the heart of Nissa Nissa.  Dany is fire and so Lightbringer will be formed.
d.       These 3 attempts to kill the Night King will provide the key to unlock the prison that is the Wall and it will fall.  The ice and fire gods will continue their eternal struggle against one another and this time around I believe that a new Wall this one obsidian black will stand outside King’s Landing.  This will bring the wheel to full circle and after thousands of years pass the cycle will continue once again.



Click here to see the promo trailer that I believe shows how the Wall will be rebuilt.  This is most likely how the Wall that we have seen all this time was formed. 

Comments encouraged.  Love to hear the idea’s of others.  Most believe that since I present my idea’s as “fact like” I’m not open to change my viewpoints which is far from the truth.  I simply look at the information presented and go from there.  If you can shine a light on another way of thinking that opens the door to debate.

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