Jojen's Green Dreams parallel Min's Viewings

Potential Spoilers Below

 The Wheel of Time:

She had told him; she had tried warning people about bad things when, at six or seven, she had first realized not everyone could see what she saw. She would not say more, but he had the impression that her warnings had only made matters worse, when they were believed at all. It took some doing to believe in Min's viewings until you had proof.

“When?” he said. The word was cold in his ears, and hard as tool steel. I can't do anything about Leya, but maybe I can figure out whether we're going to be attacked.

As soon as the word was out of his mouth, she threw up her hands. She kept her voice down, though. “It isn't like that. I can never tell when something is going to happen. I only know it will, if I even know what I see means. You don't understand. The seeing doesn't come when I want it to, and neither does knowing. It just happens, and sometimes I know. Something. A little bit. It just happens.” He tried to get a soothing word in, but she was letting it all out in a flood he could not stem. “I can see things around a man one day and not the next, or the other way 'round. Most of the time, I don't see anything around anyone. Aes Sedai always have images around them, of course, and Warders, though it's always harder to say what it means with them than with anyone else.” She gave Perrin a searching look, half squinting. “A few others always do, too.”

Warder

Min

Perrin gave a start and directed a warning glance at Sulin and Nandera, but Min laughed softly. Leaning against Rand’s knee, she really did look the Min he knew, for the first time since finding her at the wells. “Perrin, they know about me. The Wise Ones, the Maidens, maybe all of them. And they don’t care.” She had a talent she kept hidden much as he did the wolves. Sometimes she saw images and auras around people, and sometimes she knew what they meant. “You can’t know what that’s like, Perrin. I was twelve when it started, and I didn’t know to make a secret of it. Everybody thought I was just making, things up. Until I said a man on the next street was going to marry a woman I saw him with, only he was already married. When he ran off with her, his wife brought a mob to my aunts’ house claiming I was responsible, that I’d used the One Power on her husband or given the two of them some kind of potion.” Min shook her head. “She wasn’t too clear. She just had to blame somebody. There was talk of me being a Darkfriend, too. There had been some Whitecloaks in town earlier, trying to stir people up. Anyway, Aunt Rana convinced me to say I had just overheard them talking, and Aunt Miren promised to spank me for spreading tales, and Aunt Jan said she’d dose me. They didn’t, of course — they knew the truth — but if they hadn’t been so matter of fact about it, about me just being a child, I could have been hurt, or even killed. Most people don’t like somebody knowing things about their future; most people don’t really want to know it themselves, not unless it’s good anyway. Even my aunts didn’t. But to the Aiel, I am sort of a Wise One by courtesy.”

Sulin

Nandera

Rand and Min

A Wise One

Maidens of the Spear

Whitecloak Questioner

Whitecloak Soldier

Aiel

What good to tell him he would almost certainly fail without a woman who was dead and gone? – speaking of Moiraine

Min sighed regretfully, but it was not as if she had really expected Moiraine to turn up alive. Moiraine was the only viewing of hers that had ever failed.

He felt Min stiffen, and he felt her displeasure. Alivia would help Rand die, eventually. That had been one of Min’s viewings—and Min’s viewings were never wrong. Except that she’d said she’d been wrong about Moiraine. Perhaps that meant that he wouldn’t have to . . .

Alivia

Min

Your viewings are never wrong,” he broke in. “What you see always happens. You’ve tried to change things, and it never worked. You told me so yourself, Min. What makes you think this time can be different?”

“Because it has to be different,” she told him fiercely. She leaned toward him as though ready to launch herself at him. “Because I want it to be different. Because it will be different. Anyway, I don’t know about everything I’ve seen. People move on. I was wrong about Moiraine. I saw all sorts of things in her future, and she’s dead. Maybe some of the other things I saw never came true either.”

But of course we know she wasn’t wrong about Moiraine.  Thom, Mat and Noal rescue her from the Tower of Ghenjei and she plays a huge part in helping Rand seal the bore of the Dark One.

Noal, Mat and Thom at the Tower of Ghenjei

The Bore

The Dark One

The Game of Thrones:

“My brother dreams as other boys do, and those dreams might mean anything,” Meera said, “but the green dreams are different.”

Meera Reed

“When I was little I almost died of greywater fever. That was when the crow came to me.”

 

Three-eyed crow

“The green dreams take strange shapes sometimes,” Jojen admitted. “The truth of them is not always easy to understand.”

Jojen Reed

It heartened Bran to hear that. Maybe they won’t drown, then, he thought. If they stay away from the sea.

Bran

Meera thought so too, later that night when she and Jojen met Bran in his room to play a three-sided game of tiles, but her brother shook his head. “The things I see in green dreams can’t be changed.”

No, Bran thought. No. “If I went away . . . to Greywater, or to the crow, someplace far where they couldn’t find me . . .”

“It will not matter. The dream was green, Bran, and the green dreams do not lie.”

He nodded. It was hard to sulk with Meera. She was much more cheerful than her brother, and always seemed to know how to make him smile. Nothing ever scared her or made her angry.  Well, except Jojen, sometimes . . . Jojen Reed could scare most anyone. He dressed all in green, his eyes were murky as moss, and he had green dreams. What Jojen dreamed came true. Except he dreamed me dead, and I’m not. Only he was, in a way.

What Jojen's dream translated into

Bran had told them there wouldn’t be. He had told them and told them, but Jojen Reed had insisted on seeing for himself. He had had a green dream, he said, and his green dreams did not lie. They don’t open any gates either, thought Bran.

But we know he was also right about the gate also as Sam was able to open the Black Gate for them and let them pass to the other side of the wall.

The Black Gate

Summation:

There are several people in both TWOT and ASOIAF who have the gift of seeing the future but these two IMO are like mirror images of each other.  Both of their gifts start when they are children.  Min has a viewing that tells that Moiraine will play a big part in Rand’s future but at one point in the book series she appears to die.  Jojen who knows that Bran is key to the future has a prophecy that shows that he dies.  Both turn out to be correct and contradict what their visions show them at the same time.   Both of them have visions that aren’t exactly easy to understand but both know that when they have them that they are going to come true.  Melisandre has the same type of visions but she fits more closely with being Aes Sedai and Red Ajah for that matter.  I do however see her going against the Red Ajah beliefs when IMO she will be the one to save Jon Snow from the daggers in the dark maybe using the same power that Thoros of Myr has been using.

Melisandre

Jon Snow

Thoros of Myr

Comments encouraged.  Love to hear the idea’s of others.  Most believe that since I present my idea’s as “fact like” I’m not open to change my viewpoints which is far from the truth.  I simply look at the information presented and go from there.  If you can shine a light on another way of thinking that opens the door to debate.