Monday, May 9, 2016

Why Jon doesn't see anything when he comes back - TV Show version

Potential Spoilers Below


GIVE IN, ADVERSARY. WHY KEEP FIGHTING? STOP FIGHTING AND REST.

He was tempted. Oh, how he was tempted. Light. What would Nynaeve think? He could see her, fighting to save Alanna. How ashamed would she and Moiraine be if they knew that in that moment, Rand wanted to just let go?

Moiraine, Nynaeve and Rand
Alanna
Pain washed across him, and he screamed again.

“Please, let it end!”

IT CAN.

Rand huddled down, writhing, trembling. But still, their screams assaulted him. Death upon death. He held on, barely. “No,” he whispered.

VERY WELL, the Dark One said. I HAVE ONE MORE THING TO SHOW YOU. ONE MORE PROMISE OF WHAT CAN BE . . .

Representation of the Dark One breaking free from his prison
The Dark One spun threads of possibility one last time.

All became darkness.”




I see the words above from the Wheel of Time and I think of how Jon Snow died at the hands of the Night’s Watch:









“With a bellow—three Powers coursing through him, blood streaming down his side—the Dragon Reborn raised a hand of power and seized the Dark One through the Bore, like a man reaching through water to grab the prize at the rivers bottom.”

Rand seizes the Dark One

“A pitiful object. Suddenly, Rand felt as if he were holding not one of the primal forces of existence, but a squirming thing from the mud of the sheep pens.

YOU REALLY ARE NOTHING, Rand said, knowing the Dark Ones secrets completely. YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE GIVEN ME REST AS YOU PROMISED, FATHER OF LIES. YOU WOULD HAVE ENSLAVED ME AS YOU WOULD HAVE ENSLAVED THE OTHERS. YOU CANNOT GIVE OBLIVION. REST IS NOT YOURS. ONLY TORMENT.”

“He knew all secrets. He could see what the Dark One had done. And Light, Rand understood. Much of what the Dark One had shown him was lies.”

He knew everything in that instant

“But the vision Rand himself had created—the one without the Dark One—was truth. If he did as he wished, he would leave men no better than the Dark One himself.”

“Rand hurled the Powers forward with his mind and braided them together. Saidin and saidar at once, the True Power surrounding them and forming a shield on the Bore.”

Choosing not to kill him but take him Gai'shain.

“He understood, finally, that the Dark One was not the enemy.

It never had been.”

“I see the answer now,” he whispered. “I asked the Aelfinn the wrong question. To choose is our fate. If you have no choice, then you aren’t a man at all. You’re a puppet . . .” 




Kit Harrington interview and answer on “How does death change Jon Snow?”

At first, I was worried that he’ll wake up and he’s the same, back to normal — then there’s no point in that death,. He needs to change. There’s a brilliant line when Melisandre asks: ‘What did you see?’ And he says: ‘Nothing, there was nothing at all.’ That cuts right to our deepest fear, that there’s nothing after death. And that’s the most important line in the whole season for me. Jon’s never been afraid of death, and that’s made him a strong and honorable person. He realizes something about his life now: He has to live it, because that’s all there is. He’s been over the line and there’s nothing there. And that changes him. It literally puts the fear of god into him. He’s seen oblivion and that’s got to change somebody in the most fundamental way there is. He doesn’t want to die ever again. But if he does, he doesn’t want to be brought back.










In TWOT Rand actually wanted oblivion.  He wanted it just all to end but he realized that he couldn’t just step aside as he had to fight for everyone and not just think about himself.  He finally came to the realization that the Dark One really couldn’t deliver on his promises and it was all just a lie.  Something I think Jon Snow will also discover as they piece it all together and realize IMO that it is the Children of the Forest and not the Others that they have to fight.  Rand says these words: “YOU WOULD HAVE ENSLAVED ME AS YOU WOULD HAVE ENSLAVED THE OTHERS.”  I believe that they will be literal of the mankind and the Others when we get a Bran’s eye view of events and how they actually unfolded.

Children of the Forest
Bran coming face to face with the truth?
Just my two cents!!

So what is next for Jon Snow?  I believe that the show will have Jon Snow go about doing what he set Stannis off doing in the books.  Jon will go on his own vision quest and rally the clan men in the north.  Like he told Stannis but he himself will do it in the show. Flint, Wull, Norrey, Liddle  ... win Old Flint and Big Bucket, the rest will follow.  

Stannis
While Jon is doing that totally off camera Sansa will be making her way to the wall and gathering the houses in the north that have not gone over to the Boltons.  When she gets there they will combine forces with the remaining men of the Night's watch and the Wildlings and together they will fight against the Boltons.  The battle however will begin to go in favor of the Boltons and just when you think it is all but over Jon will outflank the Boltons and save the day.  

Sansa 2.0
Bolton - Wildling showdown?

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