Sunday, April 3, 2016

Who is Margaery Tyrell?

Potential Spoilers Below



ASOIAF: Who is Margaery Tyrell?

Margaery Tyrell
I believe she is a combination of Elayne and Sevanna from TWOT.  She is Sevanna in that she attaches herself to men who hold power.  She is Elayne in that she is practically royalty in Highgarden and how the people love her. 


TWOT: Who is Sevanna?

Sevanna
“The storm still battered at the dome, but Sevanna heard murmurs behind her. The other women were thinking of retreat. Not her. She had always known that the easiest path to power lay through conquering men who already possessed it, and even as a child she was sure she had been born with the weapons to conquer them. Suladric, clan chief of the Shaido, fell to her at sixteen, and when he died, she chose out those most likely to succeed. Muradin and Couladin each believed he alone had captured her interest, and when Muradin failed to return from Rhuidean, as so many men did, one smile convinced Couladin that he had overwhelmed her. But the power of a clan chief paled beside that of the Car’a’carn, and even that was nothing beside what she saw before her. She shivered as if she had just seen the most beautiful man imaginable in the sweat tent. When Rand al’Thor was hers, she would conquer the whole world.”


Muradin and Rand travel through the glass columns
Muradin can't accept the truth of the past
Couladin
Rhuidean
Muradin and Couladin are First-brothers

First-Brother is the name of a relationship between two Aiel men.  It means having the same mother, that is they are real brothers, but not necessarily the same father.

Aiel warrior
Sevanna planned to take Muradin as husband until he died in Rhuidean.


“No doubt Couladin means to meet Sevanna on her way to Alcair Dal, to influence her against you. He may succeed. The only reason she laid her bridal wreath at Suladric's feet instead of his was that she meant to wed a clan chief. But I told you to expect trouble from her. Sevanna delights in causing trouble. It should not matter. If the Shaido will not follow you, they are small loss.”


“If this wetlander can speak,” Sevanna said quickly, “so may Couladin.” She lifted a smooth hand, and Couladin scrambled onto the ledge, face an angry red.”



“A wetlander,” Rand agreed. He did not raise his voice, but the canyon carried it to everyone. The Shaido looked startled for a moment, then grinned triumphantly — until Rand went on. “What does the Prophecy of Rhuidean say? 'Born of the blood.' My mother was Shaiel, a Maiden of the Chumai Taardad.” Who was she really? Where did she come from? “My father was Janduin, of the Iron Mountain sept, clan chief of the Taardad.” My father is Tam al'Thor. He found me, raised me, loved me. I wish I could have known you, Janduin, but Tam is my father. “ 'Born of the blood, but raised by those not of the blood.' Where did the Wise Ones send to look for me? Into the holds of the Threefold Land? They sent across the Dragonwall, where I was raised. According to the prophecy.”

Tam finds Rand in the snow

Aiel Wise Ones 
“I walked among glass columns beside Avendesora.” Rand spoke quietly, but the words carried everywhere. “I saw the history of the Aiel through my ancestors' eyes. What did you see, Couladin? I am not afraid to speak. Are you?” The Shaido quivered with rage, face nearly the color of his fiery hair.

Uncertain looks passed between Bael and Erim, Jheran and Han. “We must go apart for this,” Han muttered.

Bael
Erim
Jheran
Han
Couladin did not seem to realize he had lost his advantage with the four, but Sevanna did. “Rhuarc has told him these things,” she spat. “One of Rhuarc's wives is a dreamwalker, one of those who aids the Aes Sedai! Rhuarc has told him!”


Aes Sedai
“Rhuarc would not,” Han snapped at her. “He is clan chief, and a man of honor. Do not speak of what you do not know, Sevanna!”

“I am not afraid!” Couladin shouted. “No man can call me afraid! I, too, saw with my ancestors' eyes! I saw our coming to the Threefold Land! I saw our glory! The glory I will bring back to us!”


“I saw the Age of Legends,” Rand announced, “and the beginning of the Aiel journey to the Threefold Land.” Rhuarc caught his arm, but he shook the clan chief off. This moment had been fated since the Aiel gathered before Rhuidean the first time. “I saw the Aiel when they were called the Da'shain Aiel, and followed the Way of the Leaf.”

“No!” The shout rose from out in the canyon and spread in a roar. “No! No!” From thousands of throats. Spearpoints shaken in the air caught the sunlight. Even some of the Taardad sept chiefs were shouting. Adelin stared up at Rand, stricken. Mat shouted something at Rand, lost in the thunder, waving urgently for him to take his saddle.


“Liar!” The canyon's shape carried Couladin's bellow, wrath mixed with triumph, over the shouts of the gathering. Shaking her head frantically, Sevanna reached for him. She must at least have suspected now that he was the fake, yet if she could keep him quiet they might yet pull it off. As Rand hoped, Couladin pushed her away. The man knew Rand had been to Rhuidean — he could not possibly believe half of his own story — but neither could he believe this. “He proves himself a fraud from his own mouth! We have always been warriors! Always! To the beginning of time!”


The roar swelled, spears shaking, but Bael and Erim, Jheran and Han stood in stony silence. They knew now. Unaware of their looks, Couladin waved his Dragonwreathed arms to the assembled Aiel, exulting in the adulation.

“Why?” Rhuarc said softly beside Rand. “Did you not understand why we do not speak of Rhuidean? To face that we were once so different from everything we believe, that we were the same as the despised Lost Ones you call Tuatha'an. Rhuidean kills those who cannot face it. Not more than one man in three lives who goes to Rhuidean. And now you have spoken for all to hear. It cannot be stopped here, Rand al'Thor. It will spread. How many will be strong enough to bear it?”

Tuatha'an
He will take you back, and he will destroy you. “I bring change,” Rand said sadly. “Not peace, but turmoil.” Destruction follows on my heels everywhere. Will there ever be anywhere I do not tear apart? “What will be, will be, Rhuarc. I can't change it.”

“What will be, will be,” the Aielman murmured after a moment.”


Couladin attacks Mat and knocking him from his horse.  Mat kills him in one on one combat.

Mat kills Couladin
“Sevanna barely forced herself to keep walking. Desaine had spoken against her being chosen as a Wise One, speaking loudly about her having served no apprenticeship and paid no visit to Rhuidean, claiming that her place standing for the clan chief disqualified her. Besides, as the widow of not just one, but two dead chiefs, perhaps she carried bad luck. Fortunately, enough of the Shaido Wise Ones had listened to Sevanna, not Desaine.

TWOT: Who is Elayne Trakand?

Elayne Trakand
Elayne is described as exceedingly beautiful, with blue eyes like sapphires and red-gold, curly hair.  She can charm many with her pretty, dimpled smile with full red lips.  Her sigil is the Golden Lily.  She met Rand when he climbed a high wall to her palace and fell over it into the gardenShe is very intelligent and learned from her mother Queen Morgase how to rule and play the game of houses from an early age.  She has two brothers Gawyn and Galad.  Galad is an extremely good swordsman and is described as extremely handsome and women swoon over him constantly.  Gawyn goes on to fall in love and marry the most powerful women in their world Egwene, the Amyrlin Seat.


Gawyn
Galad
Egwene

ASOIAF: Who is Margaery Tyrell?

Margaery Tyrell
Margaery is considered beautiful, with softly curling brown hair with large brown eyes, unblemished skin and a slender yet shapely figure.  Her sigil is a golden rose on a green field.  She is an intelligent, shrewd and politically savvy young woman, very much the protégé of her cunning grandmother, Lady Olenna Redwyne.  She has three brothers Willas, Garlan and Loras.  Loras is a skilled knight famed for his many tournaments victories and his good looks, which make him popular with the smallfolk and with young women in particular.  Garlan is the second son and is similar in appearance to his younger brother, Ser Loras, he is taller, built more broadly and has a beard. He is also an exceptional swordsman.  He is only less famous than Loras because he lacks the interest in gaining glory.  He is married to Leonette Fossoway. So since Margaery has an unmarried brother and heir to Highgarden who do I think he will marry?  I would say the Queen.  I believe Sansa will be the one who is younger and more beautiful who will cast Cersei down.  See my blog: What will happen to Cersei? for more details.  I say he will marry the Queen since Elayne's brother went on to marry the most powerful woman in their world.


Lady Olenna Redwyne
Ser Loras Tyrell
Sansa
Sevanna was all about scheming for power it appears that Margaery is being pushed to power by her family to begin with.  Renly was her Suladric.  She married him at fourteen where Sevanna married when she was sixteen.  Sevanna then hedged her bets between two brothers Muradin and Couladin.  Lady Olenna hedged her bets on the two brothers Joffrey and Tommen. 

Renly
Highgarden to me is nothing more than the description of the circumstances of how Rand and Elayne met for the first time.  He fell off a “High” wall falling into her “Garden.” 


Highgarden
The TV show has shown you how Margaery in being the widow of not just one but two dead kings, perhaps she carried bad luck similar to that of Sevanna:































I have been predicting now for some time that Tommen is going to die soon see my blog: “What will happen to Cersei?” for details.  It details events describing similar deaths as those of King Robert and King Joffrey and what I believe to be the death of King Tommen almost 3 years before the first ASOIAF book was published with rulers in TWOT.  Sevanna after Couladin is killed sets her sights on Rand al’Thor the greatest prize of them all.  Margaery to me will not pursue Jon Snow who is Rand’s equivalent but I believe it will be he who will pursue her.

King Tommen
Queen Cersei
King Robert
King Joffrey
Jon Snow
Couladin knowingly proclaimed himself the Car’a’carn falsely the same claim that is made of both Joffrey and Tommen by Cersei their mother when it comes to them being the true kings.  The truth of who they were as a people is revealed to each clan chief and Wise One when they make the journey to Rhuidean.  The truth of Jon Snow's parentage will be revealed to him in the wolf dream in a similar way on his journey to the truth as he completes the "dream" of his going into the crypt of Winterfell

Crypt of Winterfell
Does not Jon Snow match the description of Rand al’Thor to a T.  A man, whom the thought his father but wasn’t, and it appears that both are prophesied to be reborn to save their respective worlds, raised him.  The Dragon Reborn and Azor Ahai. 


The Dragon Reborn
Azor Ahai
 
Comments encouraged.  Love to hear the ideas of others.  Most believe that since I present my ideas as “fact like” I’m not open to change my viewpoints, which is far from the truth.  I simply look at the information presented and go from there.  If you can shine a light on another way of thinking that opens the door to debate.


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