Potential Spoilers Below
Could Jon Snow be the one who kills Melisandre and she becomes his Nissa Nissa; this is my
thinking on this. He goes into the crypts finishing his dream in the
flesh this time for real and learns his true identity.
Jon Snow |
Melisandre |
Nissa Nissa |
Robert & Ned in the Winterfell Crypts |
Jon’s Dream:
Jon shook his head. “No one.
The castle is always empty.” He had never told anyone of the dream, and he did
not understand why he was telling Sam now, yet somehow it felt
good to talk of it. “Even the ravens are gone from the rookery, and the stables
are full of bones. That always scares me. I start to run then, throwing open
doors, climbing the tower three steps at a time, screaming for someone, for
anyone. And then I find myself in front of the door to the crypts. It’s black
inside, and I can see the steps spiraling down. Somehow I know I have to go
down there, but I don’t want to. I’m afraid of what might be waiting for me.
The old Kings of Winter are down there,
sitting on their thrones with stone wolves at their feet and iron swords across
their laps, but it’s not them I’m afraid of. I scream that I’m not a Stark, that this isn’t
my place, but it’s no good, I have to go anyway, so I start down,
feeling the walls as I descend, with no torch to light the way. It gets darker
and darker, until I want to scream.” He stopped, frowning, embarrassed. “That’s
when I always wake.” His skin cold and clammy, shivering in the darkness of his
cell. Ghost
would leap up beside him, his warmth as comforting as daybreak. He would go
back to sleep with his face pressed into the direwolf’s shaggy white fur. “Do
you dream of Horn
Hill?” Jon asked.
Sam |
Ghost |
Horn Hill |
In the crypts he will find the
sword Dawn
in Lyanna’s tomb. Click here
to see why I believe Dawn is Lightbringer.
Dawn aka Lightbringer IMO |
The following conversation
between Melisandre and Jon has always been something that has bugged me in
"A Dance with Dragons":
“You are wrong. I have dreamed
of your Wall,
Jon Snow. Great was the lore that raised it, and great the spells locked
beneath its ice. We walk beneath one of the hinges of the world.” Melisandre
gazed up at it, her breath a warm moist cloud in the air. “This is my place as
it is yours, and soon enough you may have grave need of me. Do not refuse my
friendship, Jon. I have seen you in the storm, hard-pressed, with enemies on
every side. You have so many enemies. Shall I tell you their names?”
The Wall |
“I know their names.”
“Do not be so certain.” The
ruby at Melisandre’s throat gleamed red. “It is not the foes who curse you to
your face that you must fear, but those who smile when you are looking and
sharpen their knives when you turn your back. You would do well to keep your
wolf close beside you. Ice, I see, and daggers in the dark. Blood frozen red
and hard, and naked steel. It was very cold.”
“It is always cold on the
Wall.”
“You think so?”
“I know so, my lady.”
“Then you know nothing, Jon Snow,” she
whispered.”
Jon Snow and Melisandre talk in the TV show |
She uses Ygritte’s
words. Why? Could somehow part of Ygritte reside within
her?
Ygritte |
Melisandre makes her return and Davos will try and make good on his word and will attempt to try and kill her again. Jon being his father’s son learned his lessons well, the man who passes the sentence should swing the sword, and he stabs her with Dawn or a dagger (she would see a sword and Davos coming like she did previously – or maybe this time she truly is ready to die as her words suggest). Jon will kill her and she will becomes his Nissa Nissa.
Davos attempts to kill Melisandre |
Melisandre is banished |
The Prophecy:
When the red star bleeds and the darkness
gathers, Azor Ahai shall be born again amidst smoke and salt to
wake dragons out of stone.
Azor Ahai during the Long Night |
For those of you who have read
my theories you know I believe that Melisandre (i.e. the Red woman)
is also Shiera Seastar (Star of the Sea) or Melony
the daughter of Shiera and Bloodraven, aka the Three-eyed crow, and would be part
Seastar and also a (Star of the Sea).
The Dothraki
named the comet
shierak qiya, “the
Bleeding Star.” Notice that
Shiera Seastar’s first name with a “K” added to it is in the Dothraki
word. The prophecy of the red star was
not speaking of a literal star or a comet alas but a metaphorical one.
Shiera Seastar |
Bloodraven |
the Three-eyed crow |
The Red Comet as seen from different vantage points in Westeros |
She would then be the “Red
Star” that is bleeding. Her tears
account for the salt. When Jon was
stabbed by the Night’s Watch his wounds were described as smoking. Melisandre’s wound would then account for the
smoke. What does it means that darkness
gathers? At this point the Night’s King will have made it to the
Wall in search of Bran.
The Night’s King will have his forces with him accounting for the
darkness gathering.
Bran being marked by the Night's King |
Melisandre being the one
searching for Azor Ahai is the one who herself triggers the prophecy. She speaks and Jon understands too late and
Dawn comes alive in his hands. With her
dying breath Melisandre whispers to Jon the words that are probably burned into
his memeory:
“She just smiled at that. “D’you remember that
cave? We should have stayed in that cave. I told you so.”
“We’ll go back to the cave,”
he said. “You’re not going to die, Ygritte. You’re not.”
“Oh.” Ygritte
Melisandre cupped his cheek with her hand. “You know nothing, Jon Snow,” she sighed, dying.”
As far as waking dragons from
stone there will either be the clutch of eggs that were left by Vermax
or there is information that shows both Jon and Tyrion are both Targaryen’s and it is
a metaphorical waking of dragons. Some
ask why would information on Tyrion be in the tombs; well I say that Tyrion is
going to be needed for his military prowess as a strategist that he has
absorbed from both Tywin and the books that he constantly
reads and time is running short (pardon the pun).
Tyrion |
Tywin |
Jon has already had a dream
about killing Ygritte with a burning red sword in his hands. Could this be the true interpretation of that
dream?
“Stand fast,” Jon Snow called.
“Throw them back.” He stood atop the Wall, alone. “Flame,” he cried, “feed them
flame,” but there was no one to pay heed.
They are all gone. They have
abandoned me.
Burning shafts hissed upward,
trailing tongues of fire. Scarecrow brothers tumbled down, black cloaks ablaze.
“Snow,” an eagle cried, as foemen scuttled up the ice like spiders. Jon was armored in
black ice, but his blade burned red in his fist. As the dead men
reached the top of the Wall he sent them down to die again. He slew a greybeard
and a beardless boy, a giant, a gaunt man with filed teeth, a girl with thick
red hair. Too late he recognized Ygritte. She was gone as quick as she’d
appeared.”
“The world dissolved into a
red mist. Jon stabbed and slashed and cut. He hacked down Donal
Noye and gutted Deaf Dick Follard. Qhorin Halfhand stumbled to his knees,
trying in vain to staunch the flow of blood from his neck. “I am the Lord of
Winterfell,” Jon screamed. It was Robb before him now, his hair wet with
melting snow. Longclaw
took his head off. Then a gnarled hand seized Jon roughly by the shoulder. He
whirled …
Qhorin Halfhand |
Robb |
… and woke with a raven
pecking at his chest. “Snow,” the bird cried. Jon swatted at it. The raven
shrieked its displeasure and flapped up to a bedpost to glare down balefully at
him through the predawn gloom.”
Like all dreams things get
mashed up and reorganized in a way that makes sense to you while it is
happening. I believe that Bran is trying
to open Jon’s third eye because he knows that he is dying and needs to be
replaced to be a guardian to stand guard against future threats. Click here
to see why I think Jon will be Bran’s replacement as the three-eyed crow.
I also believe Jon’s dreams
are green dreams and the part about black ice refers to Euron’s armor. Euron went to Valyria
and got hold of a full suit of smoke black scale armor made of Valyrian steel. Does this mean that since Jon is wearing
black ice in his dream the interpretation is that he kills Euron and takes it for
his own?
Euron |
Valyria |
Normally I go back and forth
and tell you how this all relates back to the Wheel of Time. Well all of this does also. To sum it up quickly: Lews
Therin (Azor Ahai) in his madness, because of
the Dark One’s (?? Who/What is the true evil?) taint, kills his wife Ilyena (Nissa Nissa) and their
children. He kills himself by drawing in
too much of the One Power and creates Dragonmount (Tower of Joy). Where Dragonmount was built that day the
Tower of Joy was torn down. Rand al’Thor
was found on Dragonmount during a war (Robert’s Rebellion) in the snow (the
reason why I believe that Jon’s last name is truly snow) and raised by a man Tam al’Thor
(Ned Stark) who told him he was his
father. Both were born at the place
where the men who gave them their power to wield their “swords of destiny” died (Lew Therin –
The Lord of the
Morning & Ser Arthur Dayne – The Sword of the Morning). I believe that some sort of blood magic
(unseen as of yet) was performed that allows Jon to become the next wielder of
Dawn. Both the Dragon Reborn (Rand) and
Azor Ahai (Jon) were prophesied to return to try and save their respective
worlds. The sword Callandor (Dawn aka Lightbringer) was
said could only be retrieved by the Dragon Reborn; pretty much the same with
Lightbringer.
Lews Therin distraught after learning he killed Ilyena |
A representation of the Dark One |
Dragonmount |
Tower of Joy |
Tam finds Rand in the snow |
Ned finds Jon at the Tower of Joy |
Ser Arthur Dayne |
Sword descriptions:
“The One Power surged through
him, a torrent greater than he could believe, from saidin into the sword. The crystal blade
shone brighter than even Moiraine's fire had. It was impossible to look at,
impossible any longer to see that it was a sword, only that light blazed in his
fist.
“And now it begins,” said Ser
Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning. He unsheathed Dawn and held it with
both hands. The
blade was pale as milkglass, alive with light.
Comments encouraged. Love to hear the
ideas of others. Most believe that since I present my idea’s as “fact
like” I’m not open to change my viewpoints which is far from the truth. I
simply look at the information presented and go from there. If you can
shine a light on another way of thinking that opens the door to debate.
While answering another question asked about the topic about Melisandre and the cold I remembered this. It adds to my theory that Melisandre has part of Ygritte possibly within her:
ReplyDelete“When he turned he saw Ygritte.
She stood beneath the scorched stones of the Lord Commander’s Tower, cloaked in darkness and in memory. The light of the moon was in her hair, her red hair kissed by fire. When he saw that, Jon’s heart leapt into his mouth. “Ygritte,” he said.
“Lord Snow.” The voice was Melisandre’s.
Surprise made him recoil from her. “Lady Melisandre.” He took a step backwards. “I mistook you for someone else.” At night all robes are grey. Yet suddenly hers were red. He did not understand how he could have taken her for Ygritte. She was taller, thinner, older, though the moonlight washed years from her face. Mist rose from her nostrils, and from pale hands naked to the night. “You will freeze your fingers off,” Jon warned.
“If that is the will of R’hllor. Night’s powers cannot touch one whose heart is bathed in god’s holy fire.”
Awesome. I really hope there is a clutch of Dragon eggs in the crypts of Winterfell.
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